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Be fired and stay outside?

06.04.2005 - 10:56 / filled under default

While reading Cameron's Article about quiting jobs, I noticed something international readers might not be aware of. But first Cam:

I've found myself lately urging friends to quit their jobs and take six months to a year off. I made that decision mid-2004 and it was one of the best decisions I'd ever made.

I had friends, Dennis Bastas and Mike Vallender who had done this a few years before me and I didn't understand their reasons at the time, but they both came out of their "breaks" with new and exciting careers, both as CEOs, leading new enterprises.

I know for certain that if I had been still working a full-time job when podcasting came along, The Podcast Network wouldn't exist today. I wouldn't have been ready to jump as fast as I was. I wouldn't have been primed.
Seems to me, as if Australia has a similar concept of Hiring (and Firing) as the US?

Statistics I am aware of show, that the usual fired American needs only about 6 months to find a new job, and is used to move around for that. As many Americans seems to have long commute times, it is probably not difficult to them, just drive the same amount in another direction. Which is probably why the 'you are fired' part is not so much of a problem.

This is not true for Germany, from my experience.

Experience being in this case living in a country with about 5 million official unemployed, but more real would be 7 million - out of a population of around 80 mio people. And, here is the hard part: If you are fired, you stay out, if you are old, not mioving etc. Changing careers many times is seen being unstable.

Better qualification removes this risk, right. But at the moment there are so many people with good education, background and expertise out there, that it is not funny anymore. Old jobs from bigger companies are lost in thousands, and the middle and small companies can't cope with that. And they won't because once you have an employee, it is kind of hard to get rid of him or her again. So why employ in the first place?

Combine that with a general lack of moveability, and people working at the state agency for unemployed who administrate those files, not seek work for them. Part of that because there are so many new unemployed out there, part of it because they don't have the quality to do their job.

Add afraidness of starting your own business to it. From my point of expertise I would say: most of the new founded businesses in the last two years where made not because the person really wanted it but it means extending support with money from the state for a little longer time.

Which is a really great basis for starting a business. So the proposal Cameron is making is great. When you live in a country, where you could at least a bit sure, that this move is accepted in your bio. For example, opening up a business, getting not so successfull, and coming back to corporate live.

As I don't know the Australian job market, I will stick to my opinion about those two countries:
American way is: You are a failure, if you don't try again. In Germany, you are a failure, once you've failed.

American way is: you get fired? Get a new job. German way: You are fired? You must be a looser. There are enough other people better qualified out there.

American way is: be a self made man! German way: Oh? You needed to start your own business, because you could not make it in corporate world.

Temp jobs? Part time jobs? Looser again.

Of course, I exaggerate to simplify it. And I'm saying this, being in the same company in different departments for 14 years know. Which is bad, I know. The people around me are not that long in a company (even though this is usual in this company), they are either on their nth job in a few years or just unemployed. ;(

But at the same time (or better for the last 7 years) I have done consulting and coaching in my expertise as idea woman and 'equal oporunity flamer' on some hundreds clients. I did not get the clients by myself, I work with someone together, I am part of a crew there. But still, I do have my expertise in this field.

While I am not up for a career in corporate enviroment (because over here, this means in 90% of the cases leading people - being good at provocing and teasing people is quite the opposite of what is needed ...), I am also not up for just going out and trying - because I am fairly sure, that the option of 'then come back again' is not really an option.

*sigh* So what is the conclusion of this? While it is really a good article, adaptions need to be made. Not to deny the content behind it, but to find a way to adapt it into this side of the world. And no, I don't have the great solution to such either. ;o( Which is probably the reason I like to read such articles, because they give me ideas to think about. :o)

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  1. It appears from statistics I have read that in the U.S. and Canada (I don't know about Australia) an increasing proportion of small businesses are started by people who cannot find appropriate work. In cases like this, the main difference between Europe and North America would seem to be societal attitudes toward entrepeneurship. Of course, in the U.S. it doesn't matter where you got your money, as long as there is lots of it.
    Caleb 06.04.2005 - 17:21
  2. And over here you have to explain why you have money at all ;(
    Nicole Simon 06.04.2005 - 21:42
  3. I read it differently. I read that by quitting his job he became open to change possibilities. That when we are working we get so caught up in the day-to-day that we do not "see" opportunities. Reminds me of the old saying - when the student is ready the teacher appears.

    Regarding your comment about self-made people in Germany, it is the same in Japan. You are ostracized if you are not a part of a corporation or try to be an entrepreneur - UNTIL you make it. Then you are celebrated and your "quirkyness" is forgiven/accepted.
    Lloyd 06.04.2005 - 22:00

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